RE: Nimrod

trixarian, im not aganst nimrod, i just want to be shure that dont lead slitaz to an impass where devs will split.
i never comment on slitaz choice if i dont see a risk for the devs unity. Whatever the choses,problems,good and bad commits, if that not risk the unity its ont a risk for the project.

Theres a diff between a irl t.a.z and slitaz : the temporary part. theres an unsizable line between refuse all change and jump on everything. witch bolt can kill a project. that the some of the bolt phylosophy that make stability .

>> Rather shut up and show me
>> the code". I challenge all of you naysayers to show me a better
>> solution than Nimrod that equals it in preformance.

Before that, devs shoud make shure that preformance and easy-coding are the factors that are common to everybody. after that when every agreed whats the gold, fiberglass me with come crasy intelligent code.

EX: in the past, a commit have been made improve slitaz size in detriment of speed. for some dev that was an improvement for others a downgrade to volontairy slow slitaz.

> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:47:28 +0530
> Subject: Re: Nimrod
> From: allan316@xxxxxxxxx hope
> To: slitaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi Brenton
> do you know of any tutorials on nimrod, other than the ones on the
> nimrod website, for eg, i would love it if you explain your irc bot .
> i learnt bash because of slitaz, what started as trying to make
> packages ended up teaching me a lot and i now run several scripts
> which use /dev/tcp in bash, to troubleshoot and map my ospf network ,
> but it is slow
> that is why i would like to learn nimrod, ( have never been able to
> pickup ruby/ python etc)
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Brenton Edgar Scott
> <trixarian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I am not the perfect person to argue for Nimrod, but here's the thing:
> >
> > All the arguements against Nimrod are worst case scenarios. Scenarios
> > me and Aleksej have commited ourselves from ever happening. Yet more
> > naysayers come at us with the same story, but with different spins on
> > it.
> >
> > So let's just cut to the heart of the matter. You don't want to see
> > change. You don't want to see SliTaz evolve or become better. You are
> > against the very heart of the Temporary Autonomous Zone. You are
> > against SliTaz itself! Bold or Totally wrong statement? Maybe. The
> > point is we're argueing this to death.
> >
> > Do you know why I use SliTaz? The real reason and not the one I tell
> > other people? Because it's Beautiful and I Love it. They say the most
> > beautiful work of art is beautiful because it's imperfect. This is why
> > I Love SliTaz. It IS imperfect and I enjoy the fact that I can help
> > make it better. This is my kind of FUN.
> >
> > Aleksej wants me to tell you all why I love Nimrod. I chose Nimrod for
> > the same reasons I chose SliTaz:
> >
> > First, for what it could do. I tested it by writing a simple IRC Bot
> > using two examples I found while googling a year ago. I was surprised
> > how easy it was. Even easier than writing the same code in Python. And
> > it was only 25 lines. Then I tried to write a simple terminal based IRC
> > client in 34 lines of code and it worked! Then I wrote a simple MUD
> > client in 29 lines of code. The last two where TREADED programs to. I
> > was hooked.
> >
> > Secondly, the community. Araq, AmryKid, dom96 and Tasser were helpful
> > through it all. Hell, dom96 even implemented an IRC library because of
> > the bots I was writing in Nimrod. Using that library, I can now write
> > the same IRC Bot in as little as 12 lines of code. 12 LINES of code.
> > Can you do the same in Bash Script?
> >
> > Thirdly, It was fun. Yes, that's my reasoning and I'm sticking to it.
> > Using Nimrod is fun. It takes some of the idiocy out of programming and
> > makes it an enjoyable experience. Like Richard Branson once said: "If
> > it stops being fun, then I'll stop doing it". He's a Billionaire for a
> > reason..
> >
> > And Forthly, I fell in Love with it. I have passion for the things I
> > Love and I will fight tooth and nail for it's inclusion. To have Nimrod
> > included in SliTaz is like having two Loves of mine combined. I LOVE
> > the idea.
> >
> > But yeah, to quote Araq and Linus Torvalds: "Rather shut up and show me
> > the code". I challenge all of you naysayers to show me a better
> > solution than Nimrod that equals it in preformance. You can't? Well,
> > there you have it.
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanx and regd's.
>
> Allan.
> http://tamahatta.com
>
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