Re: What happened to tank ?

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:42:18 +0100
Christophe Lincoln <pankso@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
> > > I think it show that new tools can be dangerous for the host and are
> > > not ready for production. Did you see all trouble we had and we
> > > still did'n build anything. I belive in new tools, but there seems
> > > not inuf mature to used them on Tank.
> > 
> > I can't accept to endorse problem I didn't create ! When yo run rm -r
> > on a dir with mounted dir into it, it erases all. rm -r **IS**
> > dangerous, it's in all GNU/Linux manuals, and everybody using shell
> > experimented this at least one time... We created this sandbox
> > manually and we don't have any clue about why it stopped to works. My
> > scripts where not used to manage it, so how can you say it's their
> > fault ???
> I dont put fault on them, I say with the new way to do things we can
> get-into BIG trouble (after all we did I forgot we mount /home/slitaz
> into the sandbox. And I'm not sure rm -r did the bug because only a few
> repos was removed, but not www/, strange.
> That said, now I recreated a sandbox and only
> monted /home/slitaz/cooking into it, not the all slitaz work directory.
> For other devs, on Tank we use a sandbox because Tank runs stable, in
> the future or if you use cooking, you just have to install
> tazwok-experimental and cook package like usuall but there will be
> build in a chroot. In short:
> # mkdir /home/slitaz/cooking && cd /home/slitaz/cooking
> # hg clone && cd -
> # tazwok chroot
> # tazwok cook pkg
> Am I right GoKhlaYeh ?

Yep, considering tazwok-experimental will becomes tazwok there will be
nothing to install in fact :)
Also, we don't get last version directly, so we can't use tazwok
update-wok, but when last version will be compiled and mirrored the
fulle setup will only be:
tazpkg get-install mercurial
tazwok wok-update
tazwok chroot
tazwok cook-pkg

> > > Now I will try to make a chroot as before (tazdev gen-chroot) and
> > > use experimental to build package but without bootstraping the
> > > toolchain and without any sandbox. Or you might have an other
> > > suggestion ?
> > 
> > Yes. We success to create this sandbox and run tazwok cook-toolchain
> > into it two days ago. A bug in the last release prevented to run the
> > cook-toolchain until end, so I fixed it and as I tell you I builded a
> > toolchain successfully with this fix; and now you want to let fall
> > all we did to make it works and use it in a way nobody tried... Are
> > you gonna to tell it's my bad if it didn't works then ? (ok, it's
> > ironic, I'm sure that no)
> > So my suggestion is getting back this sandbox, cook the toolchain as
> > planned, cook packages we need to make iso and release them, then cook
> > the whole repository :)
> It's what I did this this mornig. Recreate a clean sandbox manually an
> then tried to build the toolchain. Actually it's the fourth try of the
> day. I add trouble with linux-api-header and disconnection due to
> packet lang... At the moment glibc is building
> In day Imust say something was missing me, an UPDATED tazwok manual!!!
> This is the first thing on should do we adding commands to a tool, add
> the coresponding information into the manual, so one can RTFM.

(not completely finished) French manual:
Need some time to traduce it

> I'm persevering using your tools... so please be kind! And I realy
> think ther improve slitaz but are not yet ready for production.

Ok, I'm here full-time to fix the lasts things which need to

> AND, we can't just build iso packages, release 4.0 ISO's and then finish
> build. People must be able to test all packages before we release, it's
> why wok is froozen 2-3 mounth before stable (I saure update in wok
> yesterday).

I was talking about make ISO to make everyone able to test packages and
use cook environnment easily from it (it allows to cook easily from
live if you have an HDD to put the repository, it's just home= at boot)

> So everyone: STOP UPDATING packages in wok and focus you energy on fixes
> and writing doc.
> > GoKhlaYeh <gokhlayeh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> - Christophe
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