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Hi,
I agree, a keymap file " azerty-fr.txt " would be better. I am again going to try to make this file, but until now the results were less well than those of my solution and I dont understand why !! I use french TOS and keyboard on french macbook pro.
Miguel
> Thomas,
>
> I see using keyboard scan codes on OS X works now with the exception of the pipe/backslash key. That key did not respond in scancode mode. I did not think to try scan codes again with SDL 2. Unfortunately, the Mac keyboard does not have every key that exists on a PC keyboard. Therefore, I cannot access the PrtScr, Scroll Lock, Page Up, or Page Down keys on a standard Mac keyboard. As I recall, these are used for Help, Undo, and the keypad parenthesis keys. I wish there was a way to use scan codes in combination with the key mapping. In addition, the standard Mac keyboard you will find on a notebook will not include a numeric keypad. You can buy a keyboard with a keypad, but it is not standard.
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> Miguel,
>
> Thomas is correct. It would be much better to simply create key mapping files to access the different ST keys using the Mac keyboard. A separate file could be created for each major keyboard (French, German, US, Spanish).. People using any other keyboard could use these files as a model. With SDL 2, it has become easier to create the keymap files. I created one in order to access the Help and Undo keys on OS X.
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> Unlike you, I am able to use Alt modifier keys when using a US TOS with my US Mac keyboard. In WordWriter ST, I can hit Option (Alt) Q in order to exit the program. I admit I do not use Alt modifier keys often in Hatari, but they do appear to work.
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> Here is my sample keymap.txt file in order to access the Help and Undo keys:
> #98 = ST Help key
> F11,98
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> #97 = ST Undo key
> F12,97
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> Bob C
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>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Thomas Huth <th.huth@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:11:15 +0200
>> schrieb Cocoa Pod <cocoa.pod@xxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> Questions: on windows or Linux
>>> Is it possible to reach all the visible characters on a keyboard
>>> Atari?
>>
>> If the keyboard has enough keys (i.e. also a numberpad), yes, I think
>> it is possible to get a match for all keys. It might also depends also
>> on the language, of course, but that's why why have the possibility to
>> load keymapping from files.
>>
>>> Modifier Alt has effect ? and Shift+Alt ?
>>
>> Yes, should work.
>>
>>> Because I use Apple machine, I modified "Symbolic" in keymap.c. So,
>>> compiling hatari with Xcode, keymap.c becomes automatically correct
>>> for Macbook Pro keyboard with or without numerical keyboard. I added
>>> a macro which permits to experiment conversion character->scan-code.
>>> Compiled with Xcode, keyboard is AZERTY-fr. You can add other layout.
>>> Compiled under linux or windows, nothing has changed. Test of that:
>>> MegaSTE + Tos2.06 and I use SDL2 .
>>
>> First, with SDL2, I think it is better to use the scancode mapping
>> instead of the symbolic mapping, since the scancodes are now
>> standardized (with SDL1, they were not, so scancode mapping did not
>> work at all on Mac OS X if I remember clearly). You've got to use a
>> matching TOS language for that, too (i.e. French TOS for French
>> keyboard).
>>
>> Second, if you still want to use symbolic mapping instead, I think it
>> would be better to provide loadable keyboard mapping files instead..
>> There are so many different language and keyboard layouts out there, so
>> that I think it is not feasible to add such hacks to the source code
>> (e.g. your changes likely only work with the French version of the
>> Mac keyboards, I guess ... so including these would likely break the
>> other languages). Have a look at doc/fr/clavier-exemple.txt for an
>> example keyboard mapping file for French keyboards (however, it might
>> still be the SDL1 mapping, not sure if somebody ever updated that one
>> for SDL2...).
>>
>>> None character having Alt modifier in its key combination can be
>>> obtained. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!
>>
>> Is maybe OS X "stealing" the Alt key from the application? ... it works
>> on Linux, as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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