Re: [proaudio] Thoughts about menu entries and usability

[Yves Cochard <yves.cochard@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi

Yeah that's a good idea!

Acutally, I use only separator to separate the seq/synth/other sound 
stuff...

But I don't know how it's possible to manage the entry for the apps? 
Will they all be here by default, wheter the apps are install or not? 
(and then just remove the apps which aren't installed manually by 
ticking in the menu editor of xfce4?)

And well in case it's usefull, here is my entries in

   <menu name="Audio" icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png">
       <app name="Ardour" cmd="ardour" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/ardour.xpm"/>
       <app name="Ardour2" cmd="ardour2" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/ardour2.png"/>
       <app name="Muse" cmd="museseq"/>
       <app name="Rosegarden" cmd="rosegarden" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/rosegarden.png"/>
       <app name="Seq24" cmd="seq24" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/seq24.png"/>
       <separator/>
       <app name="Ams" cmd="ams --jack" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/ams.jpg"/>
       <app name="Aeolus" cmd="aeolus" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/organ1.png"/>
       <app name="AmSynth" cmd="amSynth" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/amsynth.png"/>
       <app name="Hydrogen Drum Machine" cmd="hydrogen %F" 
icon="/usr/share/hydrogen/data/img/gray/icon64.png"/>
       <app name="Qsynth" cmd="qsynth" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/qsynth.png"/>
       <app name="San-dysth" cmd="san-dysth"/>
       <app name="Specimen" cmd="specimen" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="Spiralsynthmodular" cmd="spiralsynthmodular" 
visible="no" icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="RTSynth" cmd="RTSynth-jack"/>
       <app name="Vkeybd" cmd="vkeybd" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/stock_midi.png"/>
       <app name="Zynaddsubfx" cmd="zynaddsubfx" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/zyinaddsubfx.jpg"/>
       <separator/>
       <app name="Audacity" cmd="audacity" icon="audacity"/>
       <app name="Rezound" cmd="rezound" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/rezound.png"/>
       <app name="Snd" cmd="snd" icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/snd.png"/>
       <app name="Sweep" cmd="sweep" icon="sweep.svg"/>
       <separator/>
       <app name="Beep Media Player" cmd="beep-media-player" visible="no"/>
       <app name="Contrôleur de volume" cmd="gnome-volume-control" 
visible="no" icon="gnome-mixer.png"/>
       <app name="Creox" cmd="creox" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="EasyTAG" cmd="easytag" icon="EasyTAG.xpm"/>
       <app name="Freebirth" cmd="freebirth" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/freebirth1.png"/>
       <app name="Freqtweak" cmd="freqtweak" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/freqtweak_logo.jpg"/>
       <app name="Fweelin&apos;" cmd="fweelin"/>
       <app name="Gamix" cmd="gamix" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="Jaaa" cmd="jaaa -J" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="JAMin" cmd="jamin" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/JAMin_icon.png"/>
       <app name="Jack" cmd="/usr/bin/jackd -R -P2 -t1000 -dalsa -dhw:0 
-r48000 -p256 -n2" visible="no" icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/qjackctl.png"/>
       <app name="JACK Rack" cmd="jack-rack" icon="jack-rack-icon.png"/>
       <app name="JackEQ" cmd="jackeq" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/note.png"/>
       <app name="Jmax" cmd="jmax" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/jmax.jpg"/>
       <app name="Mixxx" cmd="mixxx" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/mixxx.png"/>
       <app name="Noteedit" cmd="noteedit" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/noteedit.xpm"/>
       <app name="Pure data" cmd="pd -jack" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/pd.png"/>
       <app name="Qjackctl" cmd="qjackctl" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/qjackctl.png"/>
       <app name="SoundConverter" cmd="soundconverter %f" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/soundconverter.jpg"/>
       <app name="Sound Juicer" cmd="sound-juicer" icon="sound-juicer"/>
       <app name="Tapiir" cmd="tapiir --jack" visible="no" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/tapiir.png"/>
       <app name="Terminatorx" cmd="terminatorX" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/terminatorX-mime.png"/>
       <app name="Timemachine" cmd="timemachine" 
icon="/home/kolt/.xfce/icons/off.png"/>
       <app name="XMMS" cmd="/usr/bin/xmms" visible="no"/>
   </menu>


And yes, I think it's a good idea.

Cheers

Yves

Thomas Kuther a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently looking at the mess in my default "Sound & Video" FDO menu
> (E17 and XFCE here) - proaudio stuff chaotically mixed with video and
> audio players, ripper, encoding stuuf..and the idea comes up to create a
> nice menu, e.g.
>
> 	menu root
> 	--> Sound & Video
> 		--> Pro Audio
> 			--> Sequencer
> 				- Aldrin
> 				- LMMS
> 				- MusE
> 			--> Sythesizers
> 				- ZynAddSubFX
> 				- OmSynth
> 			--> Recording
> 				- Ardour
> 				- ReZound
> 	etc etc.
>
> I know KDE and GNOME users can edit their menu as they like, also E17
> and lots of others, but e.g. XFCE 4.4 doesn't seem to provide that
> advanced menu editing..
>
> So I could do this on my own... or for all in a maintainable way,
> which means adding a package, e.g. "x11-misc/proaudio-menu" something
> like that which adds required default menuicons and generates the
> submenus (there are eclass funcs for "domenu" etc, so that wouldn't be
> hard), and an eclass, let's say proaudio.eclass that takes care this
> package is installed and provides some functions.
>
> But what do users and devs think about this?
>  - that sucks, mess around on your own box
>  - good idea
>  - i don't care
> :)
>
> Any comments on this are welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>   

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