Re: [sponsorship] Fwd: [FSF] Time for nonprofits to leave proprietary fundraising software systems behind

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yes, you want to make one?

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Baki Goxhaj <banago@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It would be a good idea to have that as a plugin for WordPress too if there
> exist the joomla and drupal ones.
>
> Baki
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> 00355 67 22 44 213
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.wplancer.com
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> On 15 April 2010 17:36, Mirel Lame <mirellame@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I got registered Mike.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:34 PM, jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, done!
>>> http://xhema.flossk.org:8081/CiviCrm/standalone/
>>> You can now register, I will give you admin when you are in.
>>> http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php?topic=5319.0
>>>
>>> We need to move to joomla or drupal for this, because the standalone
>>> version will be deactivated in the next release.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Baki Goxhaj <banago@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > me neither
>>> >
>>> > 00355 67 22 44 213
>>> > info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > www.wplancer.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 15 April 2010 14:40, Mirel Lame <mirellame@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It won't allow me to sign in with my open id.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:25 PM, jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> CiviCRm is now installed, you are all invited to check it out,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://xhema.flossk.org:8081/CiviCrm/standalone/index.php
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I want to use this software, when it is localized, for the fishermans
>>> >>> club of kosovo for the user management.
>>> >>> mike
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM, jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> > Ok, I am doing an install here:
>>> >>> > http://xhema.flossk.org:8081/CiviCrm/install/?mode=standalone
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> > <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> >> Well I will help as I can.
>>> >>> >> Really we should have someone who will take over the basic setting
>>> >>> >> up
>>> >>> >> of the software and aquiring an account on tuxfamily, let see
>>> >>> >> about
>>> >>> >> the localization. I will prepare that for translation.
>>> >>> >> mike
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Dritan Kiçi
>>> >>> >> <dritankici@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> Ok, then! I would like to lead this project (if it's ok with
>>> >>> >>> everybody).
>>> >>> >>> Let's form a team and build e timeline for the project. Who would
>>> >>> >>> like to
>>> >>> >>> come aboard?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM, jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> >>> <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> We can use tuxfamily for free hosting, we can also host it on
>>> >>> >>>> xhema.flossk.org
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dritan Kiçi
>>> >>> >>>> <dritankici@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> > Lets build a project then. it may serve also as testing ground
>>> >>> >>>> > for
>>> >>> >>>> > our
>>> >>> >>>> > capabilities and team work. We need it installed on a testing
>>> >>> >>>> > site
>>> >>> >>>> > so
>>> >>> >>>> > everybody can see the process. It can be used also as training
>>> >>> >>>> > project.
>>> >>> >>>> >
>>> >>> >>>> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM,
>>> >>> >>>> > jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> >>>> > <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> That would be a great project, yes. we could even use it!
>>> >>> >>>> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Dritan Kiçi
>>> >>> >>>> >> <dritankici@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> >> > Should we localize this?
>>> >>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>> >>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:01 PM,
>>> >>> >>>> >> > jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> >>>> >> > <jamesmikedupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> From: Peter Brown <info@xxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Date: Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:29 PM
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Subject: [FSF] Time for nonprofits to leave proprietary
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> fundraising
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software systems behind
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> To: info-press@xxxxxxx, info-fsf@xxxxxxx
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Time for nonprofits to leave proprietary fundraising
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> systems
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> behind
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> (News item at:
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> http://www.fsf.org/news/nonprofit-fundraising-civicrm)
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Wednesday, April 14th, 2010
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> --
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> The
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Free
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that CiviCRM has
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> earned
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> its
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> recommendation as a fully featured donor and contact
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> management
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> system
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> for nonprofits. The FSF had highlighted the need for a
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> free
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> solution in this area as part of its High Priority
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Projects
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> campaign
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> (http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/). With
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> this
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> announcement, the FSF will also be adopting CiviCRM for
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> its
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> own use,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> actively encouraging other nonprofit organizations to do
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> same.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> (CiviCRM http://civicrm.org/)
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Nonprofits have historically relied heavily on proprietary
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> or
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> web-hosted
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> "software as a service" fundraising software such as
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Blackbaud's
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Raiser's Edge or eTapestry. The nonprofit organizations
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> using
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> them
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> are
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> locked in, have little control over the functionality of
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and are dependent on the whims of a single company.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Nonprofits
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> also
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> face
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> costly migration if they wish to switch to a different
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> proprietary
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> system, never achieving independence. These factors mean
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> that
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> tools
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> intended to enhance organizations' effectiveness have
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> actually
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> ended
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> up
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> restricting their ability to accomplish their social
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> missions.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> CiviCRM, however, shares its software code so all
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> organizations can
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> see
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> how it works, have the option of commissioning anyone to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> make
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> customizations to it, and can host it on their own trusted
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> servers.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Since the code and the data format are freely available,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> using
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> system does not mean being locked into it. Because it runs
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> on
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> free
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> GNU/Linux operating system, it eliminates the need for
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> another
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> frequent
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> nonprofit proprietary software dependency -- Microsoft
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Windows.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> "The features now offered by CiviCRM will satisfy
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> nonprofits
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> seeking
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> organize their relationships with donors, supporters, and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> media.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> In
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> addition to storing contact information, it handles online
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> fundraising,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> event registration, membership management, and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> personalized
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> paper
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> electronic mailings. Best of all, it's free software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> distributed
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> under
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the GNU Affero General Public License, which means
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> nonprofits
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> can
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> host
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> it themselves and retain the freedom they need to advance
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> their
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> missions
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> unfettered," said John Sullivan, FSF's operations manager.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Free software ideals encouraging sharing and modification
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> have
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> been
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> central to CiviCRM's growth. Developer Dave Greenberg
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> explained,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> "The
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> CiviCRM project was started by a group of developers and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> project
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> managers who had been working together on a proprietary
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> donation
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> processing application. As folks who were passionate about
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> increasing
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the impact and effectiveness of the nonprofits, we came to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> realize
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> that
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> there was a need for a CRM application designed from the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> ground up
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> meet the needs of civic sector organizations. From the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> beginning it
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> was
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> clear that this should be free software -- community
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> driven
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> community owned. On a personal level I find the engagement
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> with our
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> community of users to be intellectually stimulating and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> rewarding.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Seeing folks with expertise in a particular area step up
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> contribute
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> their time and ideas to help improve the product is quite
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> exciting."
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> In making the switch, the FSF joins other organizations
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> like
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Amnesty
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> International, Creative Commons, and the Wikimedia
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Foundation,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> who
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> have
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> also been using CiviCRM.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Executive director Peter Brown described the FSF's use of
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and intent to publicize it: "I look forward to encouraging
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> other
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> nonprofit organizations to escape their current
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> proprietary or
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> 'software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> as a service' systems and give CiviCRM a try. As a
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> nonprofit,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> FSF
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> manages over 40,000 contacts and 15,000 donation
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> transactions
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> per
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> year,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> a book publishing operation, online store, and several
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> advocacy
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> campaign
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> websites with associated mailing lists -- all with free
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> software. A
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> general purpose donor and contact management system will
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> be
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> final
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> piece of the puzzle for charitable organizations looking
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> operate
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> using only free software. We plan to publish a guide
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> offering
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> our
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> experiences as a resource for other nonprofits concerned
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> with
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> social
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> implications of their technology."
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Nathan Yergler, chief technology officer at Creative
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Commons,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> offered
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> further praise for the software: "CiviCRM is a critical
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> part
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> of
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Creative
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Commons' infrastructure. We've seen the application mature
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> steadily
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> improve with new features and performance improvements
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> coming
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> in
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> every
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> release. CiviCRM's developer community is accessible and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> responsive,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> going beyond the normal call of duty to help when needed..
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> I
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> would
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> happily recommend CiviCRM to organizations like Creative
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Commons
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> looking
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> for a CRM solution."
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> CiviCRM core team member Piotr Szotkowski noted that
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> despite
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> project's maturity, there is still rewarding work to be
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> done:
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> "We
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> could
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> definitely use more helping hands. Being able to work on
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> CiviCRM
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> gives
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> a
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> lot of non-direct benefits, like the very warm and fuzzy
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> feelings of
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> great satisfaction and fulfillment: knowing that one’s
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> code
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> was used
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> help the Katrina hurricane victims, that it helps
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> organizations like
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Amnesty International or Front Line fight for human rights
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> defenders,
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> or
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> that it helps organizations like the Wikimedia Foundation
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> better
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> organize their great work on Wikipedia and all their other
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> projects."
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> Further information about downloading, using, and
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> contributing
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> CiviCRM can be found at http://civicrm.org. An ongoing
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> discussion of
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> comparisons between free software database options is on
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> FSF's
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> LibrePlanet wiki at
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Donor_Transaction_and_Contact_System.
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> For a description of the dangers in relying on "software
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> as a
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> service,"
>>> >>> >>>> >> >> see "Who does that server really serve?".
>>> >>> >>>> >> >>
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>>> >> Mirel Lame
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