Re: [Sawfish] Fedora, Gnome, Weyland and sawfish

[Allan Duncan <amd2345@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 14/04/17 19:02, Stefan Husmann wrote:
> Allan Duncan <amd2345@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > This doesn't seem to have made the list.
> >
> > On 14/04/17 16:22, Stefan Husmann wrote:
> > > Allan Duncan <amd2345@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >
> > > > I have been quite happy with my XFCE/sawfish combo, but I want to take
> > > > advantage of the weyland backend, now shipping as part of gnome.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone succeeded in switching window managers?
> > > >
> > > > For that matter, how do I make the change to gnome anyway, apart from
> > > > doing a complete new distro install?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sawfish ML
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > what advantages of the wayland backend do you expect? Especially if you
> > > intend to use sawfish under Gnome? I do not think there are any, on the
> > > contrary. You will need the Xwayland layer, which adds one more layer
> > > and will make things slowwer.
> >
> > I was under the impression that - at some stage - wayland was supposed
> > to make use of any GPU available.
> > I'm a bit vague about where the various blocks of the display system fit
> > together, but thought that wayland talked directly to the backend
> > drivers.  Are you implying that Xwayland would precede wayland in the
> > chain, and a window manager would be feeding into Xwayland?
> >
> > > Gnome and XFCE can coexist on your system. There is definitely no need
> > > to einstall the whole system. Just install the relevant Gnome packages.
> >
> > Yeah, that would be ideal, but working out what those packages might be
> > and then making them automagically fire up is beyond me.
> Well I do not know Fedora well, but isn't Gnome the default desktop there?

Yes.  There are bits of it still there that things interact with, it 
just isn't in charge.
> > > How do yo invoke XFCE? If you are using a display manager, you should be
> > > able to configure it in a way so you can choose the desktop environment
> > > at startup. If you use plain startx, you would need to change the
> > > .xinitrc file each time.
> >
> > Buggered if I know - I set it up quite some time back using a Fedora
> > XCFE spin, then hacked it to use sawfish.

> You need nto figure that out. How do you start your computer?

Umm, I turn it on and systemd does its thing and I end up at level 5 
with X running and a login prompt.  There is very little of help in 
/etc/X11.

> But these questions are not at all related to sawfish, and so you will
> get better answers on a Fedora forum or mailing list.
>
> Stefan


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