Re: [hatari-devel] Atari TT emulation and SCSI/Atari SysV Unix

[Eero Tamminen <oak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Before that, I guess one could do networking over serial
or parallel with slip/plip. ;-)

Btw. If somebody tests more recent m68k (Debian) Linux
versions on Hatari, by default login is *very* slow.

Removing “obscure” (to allow changing password) and
changing “sha512” to “md5” in /etc/pam.d/common-password
makes thinks fast again.


	- Eero

On tiistai 11 elokuu 2015, Uwe Seimet wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> One more thing: Both Linux-68K (at least the early Debian distributions)
> and ASV support the Riebel network card (VME). So in the ideal case
> Hatari would emulate the VME bus and a Riebel card. Probably very hard
> to do, but great for everybody looking for challenging emulations.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Uwe
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Yes, changes getting Linux-68K running are higher than getting the
> > Atari SVR4 running. The latter is mainly interesting for historic
> > purposes anyway, but it's less powerful then Linux-68K. But at the
> > time it was released (1990, actually to developers only), there was no
> > Linux for the Atari yet. Together with Solaris it was actually one of
> > the very first SVR4 implementations at all.
> > And, by the way, it has never been free software. I paid about 4000 DM
> > for it. Guess I'm one of the very few who even has an original manual
> > ;-).
> > 
> > Take care
> > 
> > Uwe
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > In that case either m68k NetBSD or Linux might be
> > > better first step in testing how well real Unix
> > > works on Hatari.
> > > 
> > > And somebody could also check that MiNT works
> > > with Hatari also when memory protection is
> > > enabled...
> > > 
> > > 	- Eero
> > > 
> > > On tiistai 11 elokuu 2015, Uwe Seimet wrote:
> > > > No, Atari's SVR4 only runs on the TT. And the X11 distributed with
> > > > it only supports the TT high resolution. ACSI is not supported.
> > > > This is most likely because ACSI/DMA cannot directly access TT
> > > > RAM. You definitely should have TT RAM, though, because Unix
> > > > requires much more resources than TOS.
> > > > 
> > > > Take care
> > > > 
> > > > Uwe
> > > > 
> > > > > On tiistai 11 elokuu 2015, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/08/15 20:57, Alex Madama wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > > > I was looking through the hdc.c code and noticed a bit of
> > > > > > > SCSI stuff besides the ACSI.
> > > > > > > Is full TT SCSI possible? And if so, can Hatari run Atari
> > > > > > > SysV Unix?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No, SCSI is not working yet, and no, nobody ever tried to run
> > > > > > SysV on Hatari yet. There's likely a lot of things left to fix
> > > > > > and implement before that can be run (e.g. the second MFP of
> > > > > > the TT emulation is still missing).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does Atari SysV Unix work on Falcon/IDE?
> > > > > Emulation for Falcon is more complete than for TT.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	- Eero