Re: [eigen] Propagating Max*AtCompileTime template parameters to decompositions

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2010/3/5 Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian <dofo79@xxxxxxxxx>


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Gael Guennebaud <gael.guennebaud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


2010/3/5 Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian <dofo79@xxxxxxxxx>



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Benoit Jacob <jacob.benoit.1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One more thought.

The "fixed sizes are guaranteed to not cause malloc's" principle only
applies for not-too-large sizes. Let me explain. For large enough
sizes (typically, above 200x200, but that is highly variable), the
matrix-matrix product implementation works on blocks that fit in the
CPU cache. These blocks are allocated with ei_aligned_stack_alloc
which on non-Linux translates to a malloc (or friends).

So in such unit tests, you should set the MaxSizes to some values that
are significantly smaller than at least the default cache size
(256x256 for float, but that could vary in the future). Just to be
safe and since that only makes the test run faster, stay within very
small sizes like 16x16...

My use case requires matrices smaller than 50x50, usually half that size, so we're good here :). For the unit test I'll make them 16x16 floats, no problem.

FYI, the optimized matrix product which requires dynamic allocation starts to be used for 8x8 matrices (even 4x4 on AltiVec).

So in your case, if you are running linux then alloca is used and you are fine. Otherwise, heap allocation occurs. If that's really an issue we can think about solutions...

I'm using linux, yes. I guess that one thing I'd like to understand (not only for products or decompositions, but in general) is under which circumstances will eigen perform heap allocations behind the scenes. This could end up being an issue for us. BTW, I have a question regarding products and allocation that I'll ask in a separate thread, since it' s slightly OT here.
 
Nevermind the other thread, I just answered myself while writing the post. Writing down things (and Valgrind) always helps to understand things better ;)


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Benoit

2010/3/4 Benoit Jacob <jacob.benoit.1@xxxxxxxxx>:
> 2010/3/4 Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian <dofo79@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Benoit Jacob <jacob.benoit.1@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Supreme refinement is to add a unit test for that. We already have the
>>> skeleton in the nomalloc test (test/nomalloc.cpp). Indeed, when
>>> EIGEN_NO_MALLOC is defined, any heap allocation will cause an assert
>>> failure, which in the context of unit tests we convert into an
>>> exception.
>>>
>>> So don't hesitate to expand the nomalloc.cpp test, just with new
>>> executable targets (CALL_SUBTEST_x for a new value of x up to 16) so
>>> that no single executable gets too big. Testing only 'float' is good
>>> enough.
>>
>>
>> I was just thinking of that. I'll try to squeeze some time for that, too ;).
>> Thanks for pointing me to the skeleton, that will speed up things. Should
>> EIGEN_STACK_ALLOCATION_LIMIT 0 be defined as well, or am I good to go with
>> only EIGEN_NO_MALLOC?.
>
> #define EIGEN_STACK_ALLOCATION_LIMIT 0 is really important. Indeed, on
> Linux, this is really a stack allocation hence bypasses malloc
> completely. So if you don't define this to 0, you could have a unit
> test that passes on Linux but fails (because a heap allocation
> happens) on other platforms.
>
> Benoit
>
>> The tests I've been playing with were triggering
>> assertions made by EIGEN_NO_MALLOC only.
>>
>>>
>>> Benoit
>>>
>>> 2010/3/4 Benoit Jacob <jacob.benoit.1@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> > 2010/3/4 Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian <dofo79@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Benoit Jacob <jacob.benoit.1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Adolfo,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Many thanks for this patch. It's been sitting in the back of my mind
>>> >>> nagging me for a while :) These fixes are definitely wanted.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just 2 things:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. All the MatrixType:: is a bit heavy so could you please introduce
>>> >>> enums like is being done in ColPivHouseholderQR.h, in other
>>> >>> decompositions? So MatrixType::MaxBlabla becomes just MaxBlaBla.
>>> >>
>>> >> OK, no problem. The enum approach is definitely much cleaner. I just
>>> >> didn't
>>> >> want to impose it if it was not used in some files :)
>>> >>
>>> >> One more thing, now that I'm on it, are there any other files that I
>>> >> might
>>> >> have overlooked that could benefit from similar changes?
>>> >
>>> > Any decomposition is affected in the same way. Have you had a look at
>>> > the Eigenvalues directory?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. You generated this patch with "diff" so it doesn't credit you, and
>>> >>> you haven't written your commit msg. Could you please follow the
>>> >>> instructions given there:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Developer%27s_Corner#Generating_a_patch
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ack.
>>> >>
>>> >> Adolfo
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, this mailing list is the right place for such patches... the
>>> >>> issue tracker is useful to report bugs without being immediately able
>>> >>> to fix them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Benoit
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2010/3/4 Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian <dofo79@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >>> > Hi all,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I've been performing some tests with dynamic matrices that have a
>>> >>> > compile-time max size, and found out that for most matrix
>>> >>> > decompositions,
>>> >>> > the MaxRowsAtCompileTime and MaxColsAtCompileTime template
>>> >>> > parameters of
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > input matrix are not propagated to the decomposition's members and
>>> >>> > temporaries. This leads to undesired and preventable heap
>>> >>> > allocations.
>>> >>> > The
>>> >>> > following is a minimal example of what I mean:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > typedef Matrix<double, dynamic, dynamic, 0, 10, 10> Mat;
>>> >>> > Mat A(Mat::Random(5, 5));
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > FullPivLU<Mat> ldlt(A); // Allocates 4 temps
>>> >>> > LDLT<Mat> ldlt(A);      // Allocates 3 temps
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I'm attaching a patch against the devel branch (commit
>>> >>> > 2589:8a8f4e9e04bf)
>>> >>> > that deals with this issue for the Cholesky, LU, QR and SVD modules.
>>> >>> > Since
>>> >>> > most of these modules are experimental and undergoing heavy work,
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > style
>>> >>> > of the modifications changes form file to file (some use convenience
>>> >>> > enums,
>>> >>> > some not). However, I tried to stay consistent within the context of
>>> >>> > each
>>> >>> > file. Please let me know your thoughts on the matter.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes so actually, please introduce enums everywhere :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > One very specific
>>> >>> > note: in line 65 of HouseHolderQR.h I left the Options template
>>> >>> > parameter
>>> >>> > as-is, but don't know if it should be changed to that of MatrixType.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Great catch! Please change that to Options (as defined on line 57).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks
>>> >>> Benoit
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Cheers,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Adolfo.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > P.S. Is there a better way to submit small patches, something like a
>>> >>> > bugtracker, or is this the currently recommended way?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > --
>>> >>> > Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian, Ph. D.
>>> >>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Adolfo Rodríguez Tsouroukdissian, Ph. D.
>>
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