Re: [AD] Fwd: Re: Additional opengl functions

[Thomas Fjellstrom <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:33:40 PM MST trent@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Sun, November 27, 2016 3:45 pm, Edgar Reynaldo wrote:
> > On 11/27/2016 12:12 PM, Elias Pschernig wrote:
> >> I agree. Just a matter of opinion of course, but I feel the color _f
> >> variants are a core component and half of all Allegro programs would
> >> re-create them, while the texture offsets are something used only by a
> >> handful of people, so we can expect them to know what they are doing
> >> without providing the _f versions.
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:46 PM, SiegeLord <siegelordex@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> 
> >> <mailto:siegelordex@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>     I still feel that they don't provide enough benefit for them to be
> >>     added.
> >>     
> >>     -SL
> > 
> > I feel they would be a useful addition. When you're trying to draw a
> > texture with OpenGL, you need the exact texture coordinates of the
> > texture for it to work. If someone is trying to draw a sub-bitmap or a
> > bitmap that is placed on a POT texture, you need those coordinates to
> > draw correctly, otherwise you might be drawing garbage from outside of
> > the actual (sub) texture.
> > 
> > It's not that people can't do it themselves without these functions, but
> > with these functions it would be so much easier
> > 
> > Why do we provide al_get_opengl_texture_size in pixels anyway? Then you
> > have to do all the conversions yourself.
> > 
> > It's not like these functions would need any kind of maintenance once
> > written either. Either they work or they don't.
> > 
> > I thought the point would be to make it easier to work with opengl, not
> > harder. We want to attract people to using Allegro and OpenGL, not make
> > it harder for them to use Allegro with OpenGL.
> > 
> > These functions would more than pay for themselves. Drawing one texture
> > without these functions is one thing, but drawing many? Having to repeat
> > useless code over and over again seems silly to me.
> > 
> > If they need to be renamed, or reworked, or something fine, but don't
> > dismiss them because you don't feel they would be useful, because they
> > would be.
> > 
> > Edgar
> 
> Nobody finds them useful, don't have a hissy fit... Everything is already
> available and we don't need repetitive bloat. Please don't reply with
> another rant.

I wouldn't say they arent useful. But people did express they didn't find them 
useful enough at the moment. Or perhaps they hadn't thought of all the 
potential use cases.


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