Re: [wesnothfr] #thot

[pentarctagon@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Another contributor noticed in https://wiki.wesnoth.org/TraductionRaces (the deleted wiki page) that it mentioned changing/watering down the meaning of certain types of darker events that happen in the game's lore (ie: slavery) and the concern was raised that the translated lore and dialogue would not be accurate to the source material. No examples of this happening were provided, however the wiki page seemed to make it clear that they were guidelines to follow for future translations.

Wesnoth has no official age rating from PEGI, ESRB, etc since we have never submitted it to be rated and getting a rating from one or more of those agencies is not a requirement. Steam has a content survey that it uses to provide age rating for Germany and Brazil since they specifically have laws requiring it, but that's it. Apple also has a similar survey which incorrectly rates the game as being for ages 9+, however I'm waiting on the macOS packager to fix that. Other platforms - itch.io, SourceForge, Flathub, etc - have no way of indicating an age rating at all.

Aug 12, 2024, 11:35 by cl.emence@xxxxxxxxxx:

pour ma part je vais mettre les deux langues pour communiquer.

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VA :

Hello,

I'd like to know what you're talking about. Are you talking about a page that's been deleted from the wiki?

A priori, we don't take any liberties with the original text, do we?

By the way, if there's a PEGI rating for Wesnoth, it would be nice to have it appear somewhere on the game's download pages at the very least.

And Demario, what is a PM?

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VO :

Bonjour,

J'aimerais bien comprendre de quoi il s'agit, a priori vous parlez d'une page effacée du wiki ?

Nous ne prenons pas de largesse avec le texte original, non ?

Par ailleurs s'il y a un PEGI pour Wesnoth, ça serait bien de le faire apparaître quelque part sur les pages de téléchargement du jeu à minima.

Et Demario qu'est-ce qu'un PM ?

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Clémence

Le 12/08/2024 à 16:42, pentarctagon@xxxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :

I will do so then. However the point is that translations are supposed to be accurate to the source material, not altered because a translator dislikes the content. We do not want a 4kids translation of Wesnoth. If we find that is being done, then further translation updates will not be accepted into mainline.

Aug 12, 2024, 00:21 by dembot@xxxxx:

Hi, feel free to delete the offending pages from the wiki hosted by wesnoth.

As the general topic, translators are making decisions at every string they

meet. These decisions are discussed here among translators. That would

be quite new that the PM is getting involved in these choices for a particular

language.

Finally this mailing list is used to collaborate on the French translation in

French. I will not answer any other mail in English on the topic.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

On Sunday, August 11th, 2024 at 5:46 PM, pentarctagon@xxxxxxxxxxxx <pentarctagon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am the current Wesnoth project lead. The wiki page https://wiki.wesnoth.org/TraductionRaces was brought to my attention by another contributor. Translations are meant to follow the meaning of the source text as closely as possible, not to change or water down the meaning because of personal distaste for certain lines of dialogue. If there are issues with the source text then the issues should be discussed with the development team as has happened many times before. Additionally, Wesnoth is not aimed at young children, it's intended to be PG-13 (ages 13+).