|RE: [eigen] overriding scalar_X_op for auto-dif?|
[ Thread Index |
| More lists.tuxfamily.org/eigen Archives
- To: <eigen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [eigen] overriding scalar_X_op for auto-dif?
- From: "Hongyu Miao" <jackymiao@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:56:01 -0400
- Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=dPgY91Rc6m1/mscMECqm5ndxfA5fNc0A+mWZabhilu0=; b=QFicLvrgV0b9m7FSUJ7B6tPDnPLfP80ze5npSrfXyowvoPwMJ9HXPgS3JlrrXA5kR2 mONFREbaKUoCYhuoyLpIbfjICJVeDAy4XHg7ky+8scq195nzbHIEFuwJ/Enohglyn+9N su9pHMTUIPToy+baYqlPL0cYxiBHJWNqhKXSg=
- Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=fJLihBgIN3X3Gd/AA73Q7dByK1NERo747D/Pqb7EHtBeUZKRR1qeBtgHCfAV8duusn 5pq9DGhUhBHz96iqAg6FCh/1zTTeYPzip57r2ypcq4VHqUYbA60fJ2fxKW+3T+PeRMeE mebphuXXHbXoMjG88Wd1Ww/1bQ4IXv9gwkuG8=
- Thread-index: AQLZEpS5qNYAZBHM3tTveBm0mglPnQF217EiAa777qkCNr0N+AHSUJg9kkd6QsA=
I have a similar problem here. Although auto-dif is an excellent idea to calculate partial derivatives, it requires all arithmetic ops on the paired data object (if that's the case, usually). I can't image how slow my program will become if I do that, not even mentioning the work load to rewrite LAPACK routines or ODE solvers for the paired data class. Any smart suggestion to overcome this? Thanks.
From: Listengine [mailto:listengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Carpenter
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eigen] overriding scalar_X_op for auto-dif?
I'm glad to hear that a solution is possible.
Is there any way I could help?
It's important to us because it's holding up the efficient use of matrices in multivariate distributions like the normal, and we do a lot of hierarchical regression modeling.
We can code around this by promoting everything to an auto-dif variable, but it's hugely wasteful in both time and space. Eventually, we plan to override the matrix arithmetic ops for auto-dif to save even more space and time, but we want to get everything working before worrying about further optimization.
On 5/19/11 5:42 PM, Gael Guennebaud wrote:
> ok, actually it seems this is something we have to solve in Eigen
> itself. Nothing difficult though.
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Bob Carpenter<carp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly on this. I tried
>> overloading scalar_product_traits and NumTraits, but still no luck
>> getting multiplication of an auto-dif matrix times a double matrix to
>> I'd MUCH rather just overload the basic ops for now.
>> Later, I can optimize with expressions and hand-coded gradients for
>> some cases without disturbing the API.
>> I'm afraid your auto-dif scalar code's a bit beyond my current
>> understanding of Eigen and C++ templates.
>> I've attached a small tar.gz ball. Check out the README.txt, which
>> shows how to run our reverse-mode auto-dif, has an example using
>> Eigen auto-dif var multiplication which works fine, and then a demo
>> that doesn't compile using double * auto-dif variables.
>> I include the specialization of scalar_product_traits you suggested
>> (with both orders), as well as NumTraits, but still no luck.
>> - Bob Carpenter
>> Columbia Uni, Dept of Statistics