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Bonjour,
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:41
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Subject: RE: [CBLX] Info ou Intox ?
UBUNTU SCRAPPING GNOME IN VERSION 11.04!
Salut,
J'ai bien vu ceci sur plusieurs sites. Ça l'aire
d'être assez sérieux.
Voilà encore un truc qui me déçoit fortement de
la part de Ubuntu. Déjà que
plus on avait des nouvelles versions, plus Orca
était mal intégré sur leur
LiveCD ... Donc, sur ce point, perso, je termine
quelques mois avec Ubuntu
10.10, et après je vois ce qu'il y aura de mieux
...
Amicalement,
Gregory
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SCRAPPING GNOME IN
> VERSION 11.04!
>
> Hello les
amis,
>
> Je lis ce qui suit sur la mailingliste Orca-list, et
voudrais
> savoir ce qui se passe, si c'est vrai ou si qq'un ici
connaît
> Unity Desktop ?
> Et l'accessibilité dans tout ça ?
>
> Merci!
>
> Aldo.
>
> Fwd:
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Anthony Sales <tony.sales
>
rncb.ac.uk> -----
>
> From: Anthony Sales
> Date: Thu,
28 Oct 2010 13:21:24 +0100
>
> (en réaction au msg d'origine)
>
> 11.04!
>
> I agree that this is a serious
concern. I always thought that
> at some point that Ubuntu would become
a commercial product,
> after all it's good enough and having a none
GPL desktop
> manager like Unity would mean they could stick to the
> original promise of Ubuntu always being free - but no-one
>
else would then be able to use, modify or distribute anything
> with
the Unity desktop. So for me that would mean I couldn't
> base Vinux on
Ubuntu - unless I remove the Unity desktop
> (which I might have done
anyway) or they allow people to
> distribute it - in which case there
would be no point
> copyrighting it. Presumably the argument from
Ubuntu would be
> that the Unity desktop is what differenciates them
from other
> distros and letting people modify it may harm their brand
-
> the same reason you can't use their logos or name etc. I
>
don't think this move would be morally wrong, and
> commercially it
makes sense - they could then compete with
> Apple and Windows on
portable devices, netbooks and pda's
> etc. This would be a return on
Shuttleworth's investment and
> it would presumably massively boost the
number of Linux users
> around the world. But from an accessibility
point of view
> this means we will now be trying to keep up with a
> multi-touch (3D?) interface, or trying to turn it off etc.
>
This may just be an over-reaction - because maybe Canonical's
>
intentions are benign and Luke Yelvich has been seconded into
> the
Unity team specially to get the accessibility sorted, so
> it may have
a happy ending - but I always feel where money is
> involved bad things
tend to happen. Maybe I am just cynical,
> Ubuntu has done a massive
amount to boost the credibility of
> Linux as a desktop distro and we
should turn or backs on them
> before we know the actual implications
if any for
> accessibility and the licences etc.
>
>
drbongo
> ________________________________________
> From: orca-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
> [orca-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryen M. Yunashko
>
[suserocks@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 October 2010 10:39
>
> I
respect any distro's right to choose their direction, and
> certainly
Ubuntu has done the same.
>
> What concerns me about Canonical's
decision to go with Unity
> is that they are requesting that any
contributions to Unity
> development be given the copyrights to
Canonical. To say
> that this is a concern is an undertatement
for me, as people
> need to understand that if they wish to contribute
to
> accessibility and maintain freedom and copyrights, it needs
> to be done directly through GNOME accessibility for which
>
then Ubuntu can "use" the software. But if you contribute to
>
Unity for accessibility instead, then your work becomes the
> property
of Canonical.
>
> Bryen
>
> (...deux réactions à la
publication de l'info suivante):
>
> On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 01:30
-0700, Rob Lambert wrote:
> > This comes from Linux for
Devices:
> >
> > The "Unity" user interface that debuted in
Ubuntu 10.10's Netbook
> > Edition will be standard on the next
version of the Ubuntu Desktop
> > Edition as well. Ubuntu Desktop
11.04 will replace the Linux
> > distribution's default GNOME
desktop environment in favor of the
> > multitouch-enabled Unity
interface, says Ubuntu sponsor Canonical.
> >
> > Making the
announcement at a keynote Oct. 25 at Ubuntu Developer
> > Summit in
Orlando, Fla., Mark Shuttleworth, Canonical's
> founder, said
>
> Ubuntu Desktop 11.04 will swap out the GNOME user interface
> in
favor
> > of the Unity interface that is now available on the Ubuntu
Netbook
> > Edition (UNE).
> >
> > "We conceived
some work a time ago focused on netbooks that
> we want to
>
> bring to desktops," Shuttleworth said.
> >
> >
Canonical introduced Unity, the multitouch interface, this
> month with
> > Ubuntu 10.10 ("Maverick Meerkat") UNE. Unity gives users 3D
> graphics
> > support and better touchscreen enablement. The
> desktop/laptop version
> > of Ubuntu 10.10 still has the
long-standing GNOME 2.2 interface by
> > default.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> GNOME Shell is the latest interface being developed for
> GNOME
3.0. It
> > was delayed to spring 2011 because it wasn't ready. With
Canonical
> > shifting to Unity, GNOME Shell will not be the default
when
> completed.
> > GNOME would continue to be used as
Unity's framework; it's just the
> > shell that wouldn't be visible,
said Shuttleworth.
> >
> > "Unity is a shell for GNOME even
if it isn't GNOME Shell. We're
> > committed to the principles and
values of GNOME," said Shuttleworth.
> >
> > Canonical has
been maintaining two default user interfaces
> for Ubuntu
> >
for a while now. The desktop distribution has the familiar tiled
> >
interface reminiscent of Windows, while UNE, formerly called the
> >
Netbook Remix, has a more streamlined look.
> >
> > This
shift consolidates the operating system squarely behind one
> >
default interface instead of maintaining two different
> looks. It will
> > likely be more attractive for PC manufacturers considering
selling
> > Ubuntu desktops and laptops.
> >
> >
Dell supports this shift, Canonical said. Other OEM
> manufacturers
have
> > expressed interest in Ubuntu, said Canonical, and
>
supporting a single
> > user interface across all hardware platforms
is a more attractive
> > option.
> >
> > The Unity
interface has a new application dock and launch bar,
> > multitouch
use of applications, and less clutter of the
> screen space.
>
> It will accept input via screen hand, mouse, and trackpad.
> Unity
will
> > be the default desktop experience for "users that have the
> appropriate
> > software and hardware," Shuttleworth
said.
> >
> > Users interested in Unity will need hardware
that is modern
> enough to
> > handle 3D-based graphics.
Users running Ubuntu on older
> machines will
> > still have
to switch to the GNOME interface with its 2D graphics.
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The
"fairly substantial shift" in the interface "is a significant,
> >
risky step. It will throw people's confidence," said Shuttleworth
>
> during the keynote. He said it was a necessary move because the
>
> current iteration of the GNOME shell did not match
> Canonical's
vision
> > of how applications should be displayed on Ubuntu
Desktop.
> >
> > The team behind GNOME had made some
technical decisions in
> how it used
> > GL graphics and 3D
that "we found it difficult aligning to,"
> > Shuttleworth said. "We
took a divergent view on some key
> design issues
> > -- where
the application should appear, how one searches for
> > applications
and how the applications should be presented -- they
> > weren't
embraced by the designs in the GNOME shell," he said.
> >
>
> While the announcement came as a surprise to programmers and users,
> > the prevailing attitude appeared to be wait-and-see, as
>
reflected by
> > an on-going poll on Ubuntu Forums. Asking "GNOME
Shell or Unity?"
> > GNOME Shell was in the lead, with 37 percent. It
was not a decisive
> > lead, as Unity was preferred by 29 percent,
and 27 percent said,
> > "Anything that works."
> >
>
> While some users on various online forums worried about yet another
> > competitor for GNOME, others pointed out that Linux is
infinitely
> > customizable and it's just a matter of "apt-get
install" to
> slap on a
> > new interface. There seemed to be
a general consensus that GNOME
> > looked outdated compared to KDE
and Xfce, which are other popular
> > interfaces. Unity was more
modern, in comparison.
> >
> > In the Ubuntu Forums poll, 6
percent claimed they didn't use GNOME
> > anyway. Some users pointed
out that Canonical's goal has
> always been
> > about
delivering a simple and easy to use interface for Linux.
> >
>
> "When GNOME served that purpose, Canonical used it," posted
> a
user on
> > Ubuntu Forums. "When GNOME stops serving that purpose as
> well as Unity
> > or any other desktop does, the default
desktop should be whatever
> > serves that overall purpose:
Simplicity and ease of use."
> >
> > Ubuntu has a lot of
work to do around windows management on Unity
> > before it's ready
for the desktop, said Shuttleworth. On
> the netbook,
> >
there is only one application in the foreground at a time,
> but that
is
> > not the case on a desktop. Users can set up multiple screens
and be
> > able to see all the contents at the same time.
>
>
> > For desktop and laptop users, the new Ubuntu Unity will
default
> > multiple windows and a multi-foreground interface. For
> netbook users,
> > Unity will continue to default to a
single window with a single
> > foreground application.
>
>
> > Availability
> >
> > Unity is expected
with the next release of Ubuntu 11.04 desktop, or
> > "Natty
Narwhal," in April 2011.
> >
> > An Oct. 14 Canonical blog
by Gerry Carr on Unity and its "uTouch"
> > multitouch technology,
with video demonstrations, may be found here.
>
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